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Old 05-07-2008
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Default It's about time this law was changed.?

This will protect kids who are being abused, because now the other parent can not refuse to give evidence to protect their abusive husband/wife.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2008/05/05/husbands-wives-lose-right-not-to-give-evidence-against-spouse-86908-20405707/
Bunches....I see where you are coming from. it puts a different aspect on it, as if they are forced to give evidence will they lie to save themselves from abuse by a violent partner? but on the whole i think that any spouse who won't speak out about their abusive partner is as bad as them especially when that abuse is directed to children
Green Party......I'm afraid you are wrong...if you had read the question properly you would have seen that this is a Scottish website and it is a Scottish Law.
And may I correct you that in saying there is a United Kingdom. Maybe we Scots and the Welsh want our own parlaiment, as we have our own laws, but that does not mean that all of us want to be separate from being part of the United Kingdom. The four countries need to stick together in these days of fanatics and extremeists, and stupid laws passed by our Prime Minister based on political correctness and human rights.
I am no fan of the monarchy but she is the Queen of the UK and has been for over 50 years.
Micheal...yes thanks, i had a great holiday. one of the best. making plans now to go back once again.
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Okay, the website is in England so I presume this is an English question. By the way, before I answer the legal question in USA terms, there is no such thing as a "United Kingdom", that is part of the communist propaganda the British establishment brainwashes the people in England with, to control the population in the same way as in The Wizard of Oz: England ceased being a monarchy in 1824, after 600 bloody years of trying for freedom from the cruelty and tyranny of the royalist system - and in that year finally succeeding - in breaking the wings of the monarchy, when Parliament finally had the guts to stand up to King George and pass laws OVER the king, thus which nullified the British monarchy (monarchs do not obey laws, they are the law over everything else, which is why they are monarchs: true monarchs own everyone and everything within the realm!)

Now to your question.

In our USA, we have a Constitutional provision that protects both against being required to testify against yourself in any way that might incriminate yourself WITHOUT LYING ABOUT IT, and, protects spouses from having to testify against each other. That legal and Constitutional provision is beyond being reasonable, it is essential to protect against disloyal adversary discord within the family unit, which can actually "back-fire" to prevent rehabilitation and preservation of the family association.

There are other ways of looking at remediation. Evidence in the form of official medical evaluations preclude any false statements made by the married parents of abused children. No amount of deceptive fabrication of facts will hold up when bruises, cuts, fractures and mental trauma are evident in any child.

Mental abuse may be harder to prove and document, but the signs are often always there anyway. Children find it harder to conceal abuse the younger they are. From the ages of five years to adolescents, they are more prone to confess the truth to authorities than most parents realize. The problem, of course, is when a child is so traumatized that he or she then begins to fantacize and "imagineer" events and facts, but mostly, they are quite honest.

There are also problems in our USA with the laws which say a pre-pubescent minor is not a reliable witness, and their testimony often cannot be used to implement a court case. That can be circumvented when a licensed, qualified and experienced child analyst can delve into the child's statements and use background evidence to corroborate or refute what the child said.

Maybe a British barrister or USA lawyer will read your question and can give a much better, totally qualified statement and explanation about this? I hope so!
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Hi Elsie

It's been a long established law that you can't be compelled to give evidence aginst a spouse. Such testimony would never be reliable - was the evidence diluted to protect a loved one? or embelished to take revenge in a spiteful relationship?

I see your point, but don't believe such a change is a good thing
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Not before time Elsie, this is a stupid law and always has been, instead of making up new laws to control everything that we do the lawmakers should spend some time repealing old and out of date laws and, as in this case bringing the existing laws into the 21st century.

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I trust that you are fully rested and refreshed after your holiday.
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You right its about time some on had the guts to enforce this law
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Yes I think it is - as long as it protects that very people it's meant to protect.

GREEN PARTY RON: Don't you think you should get your facts correct before you start spouting off? This NOT an English site - last time I looked it said UK & Ireland - and the UK is made up of Scotland, England, Wales and N Ireland! And as for all that rubbish you wrote ABOUT the UK - check the link, it just MAY enlighten you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom
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